Van and Rachel also discuss the 2024 presidential election

Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay discuss the latest in the Hunter Biden drama and quickly look ahead to the 2024 presidential election (31:34), debate the viral Jamaican river massages (59:53), celebrate the 50th anniversary of hip-hop (01:13:55), and more.

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
Producers: Chloe Clark and Richie Bozek

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Host of ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘The Midnight Boys.’
Rachel Lindsay is an author, attorney, media personality, and podcaster. She currently cohosts The Ringer’s ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘Morally Corrupt Bravo Show’ podcasts. Rachel is known for making history as the first Black lead in the franchise’s history on the 13th season of ABC’s ‘The Bachelorette.’

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