Plus, Van and Rachel talk about Ketanji Brown Jackson officially being sworn in

Van and Rachel react to R. Kelly’s 30-year sentence and the “normalization” of his crimes (17:02), plus Ketanji Brown Jackson is officially sworn in (24:26) to the Supreme Court. They are then joined by Marc Goldwein, senior policy director for the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, to break down the current state of the U.S. economy (41:07).

Host: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
Guest: Marc Goldwein
Producers: Trudy Joseph and Donnie Beacham Jr.

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Host of ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘The Midnight Boys.’
Rachel Lindsay is an author, attorney, media personality, and podcaster. She currently cohosts The Ringer’s ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘Morally Corrupt Bravo Show’ podcasts. Rachel is known for making history as the first Black lead in the franchise’s history on the 13th season of ABC’s ‘The Bachelorette.’

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