Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay kick the show off by celebrating the release of Van’s new book Fat, Crazy, and Tired: Tales from the Trenches of Transformation, before discussing the security footage of DaBaby’s fatal confrontation in 2018 (17:45), Megan Thee Stallion’s interview with Gayle King (41:31), and the comments by a Black Ohio State student that caused controversy (1:03:59).

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
Producers: Trudy Joseph and Donnie Beacham

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Van Lathan

Host of ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘The Midnight Boys.’

Rachel Lindsay

Rachel Lindsay is an author, attorney, media personality, and podcaster. She currently cohosts The Ringer’s ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘Morally Corrupt Bravo Show’ podcasts. Rachel is known for making history as the first Black lead in the franchise’s history on the 13th season of ABC’s ‘The Bachelorette.’