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Reacting to the Verdict in the Ahmaud Arbery Trial and Trying to Define Justice

Rachel and Van share their thoughts on the guilty verdict

By Rachel Lindsay and Van Lathan
Sentencing Hearing Held For Men Convicted Of Ahmaud Arbery Murder Photo by Stephen B. Morton-Pool/Getty Images


Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay first discuss their childhood churches (2:00) and then react to the guilty verdict in the federal hate crimes trial of Ahmaud Arbery’s killers (17:00). Next, they talk about Juwan Howard’s altercation after Sunday’s Wisconsin-Michigan game and what type of punishment that merited (36:00), before closing with a conversation about how we talk to our parents about sex (1:11:00).

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
Producers: Trudy Joseph and Mike Wargon

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