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The Questionable Pasts of the Joneses: Jerry and James Earl

Van and Rachel also remember the lives of friend and music executive Hovain Hylton and actress and pop star Irene Cara

Van and Rachel kick the show off by remembering the lives of friend and music executive Hovain Hylton, and actress and pop star Irene Cara (12:46), before digging into a photo of a teenage Jerry Jones at a desegregation protest in 1957 Arkansas (28:09). Plus, an analysis of a 1968 video of James Earl Jones discussing Black women being “uptight” (53:45).

Hosts: Van Lathan Jr. and Rachel Lindsay
Producer: Donnie Beacham Jr.

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Host of ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘The Midnight Boys.’
Rachel Lindsay is an author, attorney, media personality, and podcaster. She currently cohosts The Ringer’s ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘Morally Corrupt Bravo Show’ podcasts. Rachel is known for making history as the first Black lead in the franchise’s history on the 13th season of ABC’s ‘The Bachelorette.’

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