Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay react to the deaths of the legendary Archbishop Desmond Tutu (14:07) and coach-broadcaster John Madden (18:52). Plus, they discuss Joe Rogan’s suggestion of Michelle Obama for president in 2024 (27:42) and journalist Cerise Castle joins to provide insight on violence from the LAPD and gang affiliation within the department (35:38).
Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
Guest: Cerise Castle
Producers: Trudy Joseph and Donnie Beacham
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Rachel Lindsay is an author, attorney, media personality, and podcaster. She currently cohosts The Ringer’s ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘Morally Corrupt Bravo Show’ podcasts. Rachel is known for making history as the first Black lead in the franchise’s history on the 13th season of ABC’s ‘The Bachelorette.’
