Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay revisit the impending divorce of a couple of philanthropic billionaires (5:21) before talking financial responsibility and jollof rice with former NFL star Adewale Ogunleye (11:33). Then Van and Rachel discuss the upcoming appeal in the case of Derek Chauvin (45:37), before lightening the mood with some superhero speculation from Krypton and Wakanda (53:03). Finally, Drake’s allegedly out here ending engagements (1:07:25) and then it’s mailbag time (1:22:59)!

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Van Lathan

Host of ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘The Midnight Boys.’

Rachel Lindsay

Rachel Lindsay is an author, attorney, media personality, and podcaster. She currently cohosts The Ringer’s ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘Morally Corrupt Bravo Show’ podcasts. Rachel is known for making history as the first Black lead in the franchise’s history on the 13th season of ABC’s ‘The Bachelorette.’