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Piers Morgan Is Upset and Alicia Garza on How to Be Hopeful in a Time of Social Change

Van and Rachel also talk to Alicia about the Black mandate for the Biden-Harris administration, Stacey Dash, and what she would consider a win for Black people

Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay are joined by activist and author Alicia Garza to discuss how she stays hopeful, the Black mandate for the Biden-Harris administration, Stacey Dash, and what she would consider a win for Black people (14:30). Then Van and Rachel talk more about about Stacey Dash’s apology (47:00), Piers Morgan walking out on Good Morning Britain (58:00), and one year of COVID-19 (1:08:00), before recapping The Bachelor and answering mailbag questions (1:15:00).

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Host of ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘The Midnight Boys.’
Rachel Lindsay is an author, attorney, media personality, and podcaster. She currently cohosts The Ringer’s ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘Morally Corrupt Bravo Show’ podcasts. Rachel is known for making history as the first Black lead in the franchise’s history on the 13th season of ABC’s ‘The Bachelorette.’

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