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Luke vs. Obi-Wan Midnight Court, J.J. Abrams, and the Case for ‘Superman & Lois’

Van and Charles are on a ‘Star Wars’-themed episode where they discuss the latest news of J.J. Abrams talking about the troubles of the latest ‘Star Wars’ trilogy

European Premiere of “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker” Photo by Gareth Cattermole/Getty Images for Disney


Van and Charles are on a Star Wars-themed episode where they discuss the latest news of J.J. Abrams talking about the troubles of the latest Star Wars trilogy (03:25). They then head to Midnight Court to decide who is the better Jedi, Luke Skywalker or Obi-Wan Kenobi (17;57). All before Van makes the case to Charles about why he should watch Superman & Lois (56:44).

Hosts: Van Lathan and Charles Holmes
Guest: Ben Lindbergh
Producer: Steve Ahlman
Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal and TD St. Matthew-Daniel

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