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Luke vs. Obi-Wan Midnight Court, J.J. Abrams, and the Case for ‘Superman & Lois’

Van and Charles are on a ‘Star Wars’-themed episode where they discuss the latest news of J.J. Abrams talking about the troubles of the latest ‘Star Wars’ trilogy

By Charles Holmes and Van Lathan
European Premiere of “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker” Photo by Gareth Cattermole/Getty Images for Disney


Van and Charles are on a Star Wars-themed episode where they discuss the latest news of J.J. Abrams talking about the troubles of the latest Star Wars trilogy (03:25). They then head to Midnight Court to decide who is the better Jedi, Luke Skywalker or Obi-Wan Kenobi (17;57). All before Van makes the case to Charles about why he should watch Superman & Lois (56:44).

Hosts: Van Lathan and Charles Holmes
Guest: Ben Lindbergh
Producer: Steve Ahlman
Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal and TD St. Matthew-Daniel

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