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A Full-Fledged Jokic-gasm With Kevin O’Connor and J. Kyle Mann

Plus, Jake Tapper on post-Trump TV life, moderating political debates, his new novel, and more

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Kevin O’Connor and J. Kyle Mann to discuss Nikola Jokic’s MVP-caliber play, his presence on the court, the Nuggets’ playoff hopes without Jamal Murray, the era of positionless basketball, and more (2:50). Then Bill talks with CNN’s Jake Tapper about what it was like to cover political news in the past year-plus, covering non-Trump topics on The Lead With Jake Tapper, moderating both Democratic and Republican presidential candidate debates, mega-panel TV shows, his new novel The Devil May Dance, and more (1:03:30).

Host: Bill Simmons
Guest: Jake Tapper, Kevin O’Connor, and J. Kyle Mann
Producer: Kyle Crichton

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