MJ, the GOAT. Plus, ‘Survivor’ Greatness, ‘Big Mouth’ Season 4, MJ vs. Kobe, and Quarantine Life With J.A. Adande, Nick Kroll, and Jason Concepcion.

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons reads an excerpt from The Book of Basketball on what makes Michael Jordan the GOAT (3:00), before he is joined by Northwestern University’s director of sports journalism, J.A. Adande, to discuss covering the Jordan-era Bulls, thoughts about the ESPN documentary The Last Dance, Michael Jordan’s relationship with Kobe Bryant, and more (36:48). Then Bill talks with The Ringer’s Jason Concepcion about the season finale of Survivor (1:11:05). Finally Bill talks with actor, comedian, and writer Nick Kroll about self-quarantining, Season 4 of his Netflix show, Big Mouth, a Big Mouth spinoff show called Human Resources, the flexibility of making animated shows remotely, and much more (1:34:55).

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