
Wait a Second…
The False Alarm That Almost Started a Nuclear War. Plus: the Tupac Trial, With Joel Anderson.
About the episode
Wait a Second … is kicking off Terror Month with the most terrifying idea of all: nuclear annihilation. Following news last month that an AI chatbot nearly got us into a war with China, Jason and Tyler look back at the early-’80s incidents that nearly brought the Cold War to a boil. With the help of The Ringer’s Joel Anderson, they talk NORAD and real-life war games.
Later, they break down the Tupac murder trial and conviction of Duane “Keefe D” Davis, which Joel wrote about on The Ringer last week.
Read Joel’s piece on the Keefe D verdict here.
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Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker
Guest: Joel Anderson
Producer: Justin Sayles
Video editing: Jordan Satmary
Engineering: Jason Arreola
Social media: Paige Ransbury
Thumbnail: Matt James
Summary
- 0:01
The real-life WarGames
- 2:39
Our guest today: Joel Anderson
- 4:00
Could AI accidentally start a war?
- 8:17
Setting the stage for a nuclear near-miss
- 26:17
The Cold War gets very, very close
- 39:13
The Soviet “Dead Hand” system
- 42:30
The Tupac murder verdict and the conspiracy theories
- 53:56
The LAPD, Keefe D, and the case against him
- 58:08
The American Idol murder case
- 1:03:17
A Bob Iger COVID conspiracy
- 1:06:59
Hackers breach the FBI. What did they want?
- 1:09:49
The mysterious Milwaukee “bad boy” sound

