About the episode
Chris and Andy talk about the two-episode premiere of Pluribus, Vince Gilligan’s new sci-fi drama on Apple TV, and how despite its unique concept, it still contains the hallmark style that the Breaking Bad creator is known for (1:02). Later, Chris is joined by Gilligan to discuss what inspired the series, going back to Albuquerque, Rhea Seehorn’s unparalleled talent, why he wanted to write a hero protagonist, and much more (26:04).
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Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald
Guest: Vince Gilligan
Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady
Video Producer: Jon Jones

