The Pats and Drake Maye’s Ceiling With Steve Muench. Plus, a Celtics Therapy Session With Michael Pina.

Brian chats with The Ringer’s Steve Muench about the Patriots’ surprising 6-2 record, Drake Maye’s MVP-type season so far, the offensive line’s play, Robert Spillane and the defense, and more (0:45). Then, he talks to The Ringer’s Michael Pina about the Celtics, how much the team has missed Jayson Tatum, their lack of talent in the frontcourt, and whether or not the team should tank (51:50). Brian and Jamie end with some last thoughts on Maye (1:19:15).

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Host: Brian Barrett
Guests: Steve Muench and Michael Pina
Producer: Jamie McClellan