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Van and Rachel discuss the assessment that COVID-19 may have resulted from a lab leak (16:13) before welcoming vaccine scientist Dr. Peter Hotez to help unpack the news (39:31). Plus, Dilbert creator Scott Adams exposes his racism (1:04:55), and Black masculinity continues to be discussed (1:26:35).

Hosts: Van Lathan Jr. and Rachel Lindsay
Guest: Dr. Peter Hotez
Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith

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Rachel Lindsay is an author, attorney, media personality, and podcaster. She currently cohosts The Ringer’s ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘Morally Corrupt Bravo Show’ podcasts. Rachel is known for making history as the first Black lead in the franchise’s history on the 13th season of ABC’s ‘The Bachelorette.’


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Host of ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘The Midnight Boys.’

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