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Biscuits, Brisket, and Big Pizza Energy With Bryan Ford

Plus, talking Jamaican food, heirloom Hot Pockets, and former NBA player Brian Scalabrine

By Dave Chang and Chris Ying
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The Great Pizza Debate continues with Recipe Club and New World Sourdough author Bryan Ford stepping up to contend with unrepentant homemade pizza skeptic Dave Chang—but when the doppio-zero dust clears, whose pizza path will the world choose to follow? Plus: haircut narcolepsy, pan de coco, Dave making Jamaican food, heirloom Hot Pockets, putting bread on a pedestal, pulling up to the retirement community with the wood-fired pizza oven, open-crumb shots, Brian Scalabrine, and an honest assessment of Chris’s pasta salad.

Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying
Guest: Bryan Ford
Producer: Sasha Ashall
Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor

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