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‘Better Call Saul’ Season Finale

Plus: talking with ‘Maniac’ creator Patrick Somerville

Bob Odenkirk as Saul Goodman AMC/Ringer illustration

The Ringer’s Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald get together to talk about the finale of Season 4 of Better Call Saul (5:43) and what’s next for the series (12:35). Then they are joined by the creator of Netflix’s Maniac, Patrick Somerville, to talk about the process of creating the show (18:01) and what it was like to work with Cary Fukunaga, Emma Stone, Jonah Hill, and others (36:41).

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