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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Michael Pina to discuss Shai Gilgeous-Alexander becoming an untradeable asset (3:56), what the Knicks should do next (20:30), and whether the Hawks or Heat should be the Southeast Division favorites (37:24). Then, Bill is joined by Derek Thompson to discuss the potential end of an era in the tech world, and what to expect in the future (46:23).

Host: Bill Simmons
Guests: Derek Thompson and Michael Pina
Associate Producer: Isaiah Blakely

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Bill Simmons is the founder and managing director of The Ringer, which he launched in 2016. He hosts ‘The Bill Simmons Podcast’ and ‘The Rewatchables,’ and also serves as head of podcast innovation and monetization for Spotify.

Bill Simmons

Derek Thompson is the host of the ‘Plain English’ podcast. He is a staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of several books, including ‘Hit Makers’ and the forthcoming ‘Abundance,’ coauthored with Ezra Klein. He lives in North Carolina, with his wife and daughter.

Derek Thompson

Michael Pina is a senior staff writer at The Ringer who covers the NBA.

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