Taylor Swift vs. Kim Kardashian (Round 2) | Jam Session

It’s been four years since the infamous 2016 phone call between Taylor Swift and Kanye West was leaked, but it’s not over yet and we have all the deets (8:00). After confirming our suspicions, Ben Affleck and Ana de Armas head to the beach for a photo shoot or lack thereof (15:45). We then turn our attention to social-media findings that include accusations of Ellen DeGeneres being mean (25:45)? Plus: more book recommendations you should consider while you have the extra time (37:56).

Hosts: Juliet Litman and Amanda Dobbins

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