
About the episode
Nora and Nathan discuss Taylor Swift’s induction into the Songwriters Hall of Fame and what the speech she gave during the ceremony reveals about her songwriting process (1:00). Then they answer some lingering questions about Olivia Rodrigo’s album you seem pretty sad for a girl so in love, including where this lands her in the Grammy contention conversation (27:54) and whether “expectations” could be the song of the summer (43:21).
Hosts: Nora Princiotti and Nathan Hubbard
Producer: Kaya McMullen

