Journalist and political commentator John Avlon joins to discuss the value of “centrism” and the danger of “both sides-ism” in politics (4:06), grading President Biden’s performance in historical context (13:17), and Abraham Lincoln’s role as peacemaker in his new book, Lincoln and the Fight for Peace (16:56).
Host: Bakari Sellers
Guest: John Avlon
Producer: Donnie Beacham
Executive Producer: Jarrod Loadholt
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