Bakari is joined by the recently reelected mayor of Birmingham, Alabama, Randall Woodfin, to talk about his thoughts on the police reform vs. abolish debate (3:08), the challenges that come along with being a mayor of a large city and working to get reelected (11:50), and why he believes in pragmatic leadership (21:23).
Host: Bakari Sellers
Guest: Randall Woodfin
Executive Producer: Jarrod Loadholt
Producer: Kaya McMullen