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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by attorney, author, and political commentator Bakari Sellers to discuss the “perfect storm” that mobilized the current Black Lives Matter movement; people and organizations making statements, including Roger Goodell, LeBron James, and Patrick Mahomes; some history behind the civil rights movement; the political climate leading up to the 2020 presidential election; Bakari’s book, My Vanishing Country; and more (1:55). Then Bill talks with stand-up comedian, writer, and actor Bill Burr to discuss the pre–Super Bowl football era, the unwritten rule book in hockey known as “the code,” taking a break from stand-up during the pandemic, his new movie The King of Staten Island, working with Judd Apatow and Pete Davidson, and more (49:19).
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