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Why Jimmy Fallon Is Losing the Late-Night War

Alison Herman joins the pod to talk late-night TV and HBO’s new series, ‘Here and Now’

The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon - Season 4 Photo by: Andrew Lipovsky/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images

Chris Ryan and Alison Herman discuss Jimmy Fallon and his current place among late-night hosts (4:30). They also discuss HBO’s new show, Here and Now (16:00). Later, Andy Greenwald sits down with Alex Kapranos and Bob Hardy of Franz Ferdinand (23:00).

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