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The Ringer's Ben Lindbergh and Jason Concepcion pine for VR rigs and talk to their colleague Justin Charity about Arkane Studios' first-person shooter, Prey (4:20), how the pace of a playthrough affects the player's impressions (6:05), and whether a disappointing ending can spoil a game (11:05). Then they ask WSJ's Sarah E. Needleman about covering the gaming industry from a business perspective (16:28), the future of esports (25:25), and the major trends she's tracking (30:23). Lastly, they bring on Destiny glitcher "Dj" to discuss his two-year journey to Atheon's throne room in the Vault of Glass (32:59), what inspires him to explore beyond the boundaries of games (34:23), and what he's looking forward to in Destiny 2 (45:48).